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  1. dunadan
    07/25/2009 @ 10:05 pm

    Gosh! I miss those days when things were simple and Arashi was unknown.

    And I remember amnosNET very well :D

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    • Adrimarie
      07/26/2009 @ 5:40 pm

      Long time no see! I pretty much gave up on amnosNET… have someone else carry on the legacy of true fandom. I’ll just sit back and relax and be behind the scenes or something. LOL. Although it looks like I still have Arashin Introspect (gallery/wallpapers/etc.) up somewhere. Maybe I’ll just salvage that or something LOL. ^^

      But those were definitely fun days when we used to know all of the Arashi fans around the world when no one were familiar with him. LOL. Now we’ve got a whole race of people under “stormy conditions.” :P

      Nice to hear from you again~! ^_^

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  2. salwa
    07/26/2009 @ 5:16 am

    it might not be within the scope, but maybe i can also add:

    – some might also think that a/some fangirl(s) is/are a threat to them, so they ganged up and go against the said person/ group of people.

    most of the time, it’s the hormone reacting, really.

    – i believe having your own land with your own name where you fantasize on arashi(like salwaland) is cool, but if it get carries out in real life, that’s SCARY.

    -fantasy should stay in fantasyland. that’s about it.

    i’m having fun reading all this ^^

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    • Adrimarie
      07/26/2009 @ 5:42 pm

      LOL… thanks for your contributions. I’ll be sure to update this article when I can. You can still find this article quickly by going to the Articles section of this blog. ^^

      – i believe having your own land with your own name where you fantasize on arashi(like salwaland) is cool, but if it get carries out in real life, that’s SCARY.

      -fantasy should stay in fantasyland. that’s about it.

      I actually knew someone from 3-ish years ago (when I was still active) who had a “fantasy land” like that. Can’t believe I missed that. LOL

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  3. Haruka
    07/26/2009 @ 11:31 am

    Hi, here’s a random Arashi fan dropping by xD

    I definitely agree with the things you have said. ^^ And I very, very strongly agree with “Real fans stick together and unite, sharing their common interests and thoughts about their favorite idol (singer, whatever).” :)

    here’s one thing i didn’t see in the post– people who steal other fan’s hardwork, such as fanart, when that person has worked really hard and spent time and effort in it. now this is one of the things that pisses me off real bad. O_o

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    • Adrimarie
      07/26/2009 @ 5:43 pm

      Ah, fanart! I actually had that at the tip of my tongue because I was checking out my devART account at the time I was writing this (sadly I don’t do much fanart since I’m not very good at drawing LOL ^^). I can’t believe I didn’t add that, but thanks for reminding me. ^_^

      I forgot to set the comments section of this blog (since hardly anyone comes here). I’ll be sure to turn off the restrictions. ^^;

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  4. Princess_jime
    07/26/2009 @ 5:16 pm

    :mrgreen: Very good! I agree with everything XD, reminded me of something I wrote a long time ago:

    The various stages of fangirling.
    +the reluctant fangirl: is the fangirl that in most cases doesn’t want to admit she’s one, is embarrassed of her fangirl tendencies, maybe because of ignorance in the ways of fangirling or just because for personal reasons she thinks she’s not “allowed” to fangirl. The reluctant fangirl will eventually succumb to her desires and turn into a full fledged fangirl in time.

    +the rookie: is the fangirl that has been recently exposed to the greatness of her idol, she’s still looking around, trying to get a hold of everything and is surprised and bewildered by all the new things she’s experiencing.

    +the normal fangirl: is the one that is in tune with her fangirliness, she accepts herself and dreams of her idol, she may even have more than one. The normal fangirl buys magazines, collects pics, goes to concerts, watches dramas, searches the internet for behind the scenes clips, reads gossip, and all that.

    +The ninja fangirl: she lurks, she operates in the dark, she never posts nor makes herself known, she doesn’t go to concerts, she never meets up with other fangirls, a loner, she nevertheless is a crazy fangirl, she adores in secret, she swoons in her bathroom, when no one is around and she can’t be heard. Be it because of shame, or because of a fetish with secrecy she will buy her idol’s cds in the same fashion people rent porn, covering it up with other stuff, dreading the look of the clerk, hiding them in hidden compartments around her place. A mysterious fangirl, she is very interesting.

    +the crazy-fangirl: is the one that is so into fangirling she becomes demented. She has delusional thoughts of being her idol’s one and only, she battles others of her kind for control over the object of her desire, she screams and shouts every time she sees her idol. She’s so engulfed with fangirling she even becomes inspired and writes fanfiction and learns to photoshop solely for the purpose of seeing herself besides her idol and feel closer to him/her. The crazy fangirl usually is not well received by others and so she searches for a place she can call her own where she can fangirl to her heart’s content shamelessly.

    +the perv fangirl: is a crazy fangirl that has taken the sexual route, all her fangirling is bound to turn perv and seems incapable of thinking pure thoughts when it comes to her idol. She duels in the gutters and she likes it. She bows down to mokkori, it’s her way of life. She may scare a few of the male species with her over-the-top sexuality but enthrall others as well. The perv fangirl is contagious, you will get perved if you hang out too long with her.

    +the über fangirl: is the scary type, the one that takes her fangirling to the street, she stalks, she threatens, she harasses, she may even kill herself. Beware of the über fangirl, if you see her, run the other way.

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    • Adrimarie
      07/26/2009 @ 5:48 pm

      Nice article, Princess_jime! Thanks for sharing. ^_^

      When I was a major fan 3 years ago, I belonged in this category:

      +the normal fangirl: is the one that is in tune with her fangirliness, she accepts herself and dreams of her idol, she may even have more than one. The normal fangirl buys magazines, collects pics, goes to concerts, watches dramas, searches the internet for behind the scenes clips, reads gossip, and all that.

      Well, to add (or subtract), I’ve never gone to the concerts or “searches the net for behind the scenes clips” or even read gossip. All the rest pretty much applies to me. I did have a super-huge Arashi fansite that lasted for about 5 years or so then I just grown over it.

      Today, I don’t even think I fit in any of them since I can’t afford to buy the stuff anymore. :sad:

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      • Princess_jime
        07/27/2009 @ 12:53 pm

        XD Yes, as we get older… we realize we have to spend our money on little things like water, electricity, gas, food. XD Nothing left for magazines and such (btw: I’m also in my early 30s). I was as normal a fangirl as can be, only everything I do (still) is bound to finding free stuff online. There’s just no way I can spend on proper cds and all that LOL.

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        • Adrimarie
          07/27/2009 @ 1:06 pm

          You rule, girl! When I was major fan back in the early 2000s, I’ve met a lot of Arashi/JE fans who are a lot older than me (in their late 30s-early 50s… I was around 24 or 25 when I became a fan). We can go freebie, thanks to the latest technology. Imagine back then, there weren’t any YouTubes or fansubbers…. we had to get everything raw and struggle w/ the Japanese LOL. Lucky for me I’m pretty proficient enough in Japanese that I can almost understand them. ^^

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  5. monsters_need_not_apply
    07/27/2009 @ 5:16 am

    eeeekkk!!!rabid fans <—– scary!!

    Leah Dizon (Pinay pride, FTW~!)
    saw this so i clicked on your profile..ahh really? one of the pinoy migrant to usa?
    where (what country) were you when you became a fan of arashi, just wondering?

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    • Adrimarie
      07/27/2009 @ 11:53 am

      Haha, thanks for visiting! ^_^

      I moved here when I was 10-yrs-old (I’m in my early 30s now, by the way), so when I became a fan of Arashi, I’m already here in the U.S. Arashi came to Hawaii back in spring 2002 (I live in California, but I saw them in local Asian-American TV news so yeah LOL) for the entire weekend, calling the event “Arashi Days.”

      I became a fan of Arashi back when they were not as known as they are today. I sorta dropped out of fandom in 2007 and I’m sorta slowly coming back in to it again this year.

      I actually knew of Leah Dizon before she ended up being a J-Pop idol today. My brother and his friends would often go to various car shows and Leah Dizon was one of the race queens there (she’s originally from Las Vegas). I think she’s mixed, but her father’s definitely Pinoy, which makes her Pinay. :P

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  6. Tsubame
    07/27/2009 @ 3:38 pm

    Just wanted to say that the entry was hilarious and I do recognize some of the bullet points you mentioned. Thanks for the entry, it relieved some of my stress from work today! :lol:

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    • Adrimarie
      07/27/2009 @ 4:41 pm

      Good to hear. Thanks for visiting. ^_^

      What can I say? We really do need to laugh at ourselves sometimes. It’s also a helpful reminder for the truly hardcore rabid fan girls on what to do and what not to do. It’s plain common sense in general, but knowing that not very many people have it, oh heck. Why not? :)

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  7. Diti
    08/06/2009 @ 12:07 am

    LOL you made great points there! and we all see those kind of people everywhere XDDDDD

    Gosh~ How I miss the old fandom days and amnosNET.

    Now nearly EVERYONE knows Arashi and it just doesn’t feel as fun as before when we all got excited just because we find some random file and can’t wait to share it with everyone. These days, you can find everything easily and although it’s great to get those things, I still miss the tight bond between the fan in the old days :sad:

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    • Adrimarie
      08/06/2009 @ 1:03 am

      I know… and the newer fans (from my observation that is) aren’t that friendly either too. All of a sudden some would berate you for liking the same idol as they do… and they even ignore you when you try to “impart some knowledge” to them about Arashi. It just doesn’t feel the same. :(

      I wish I still had the dang domain… maybe I can revive everything (using wordpress this time, dangit)… but eh… I’m more of a regular general J-dorama/idol fan now. LOL XD

      But seriously, we need to keep in touch. That’s for sure.

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      • Diti
        08/06/2009 @ 2:51 am

        Yup! you got that one right! XD

        the this is that they act as if they’re the one who knows every single thing on Arashi which is just sometimes can be really annoying LOL

        that’s why right now I don’t really get involve in the fandom anymore and just keep in contact with some fans from Indonesia XD

        actually me and vicky (with one of our friend) open another Arashi fansite (the one we had before was gone…it’s a long story with some sort of conflict XDDDD). remember how amnosNET was THE fansite? now they got A LOT of them, so we decided to concentrate on the Indonesian fans…LOL

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        • Adrimarie
          08/06/2009 @ 10:28 am

          Same here. Well, I tried joining forums (Arashian just reopened again but there’s barely any activity there, primarily the admins >.>) and a lot of the newer members just flat-out ignore you. No respect, I tell you. But it’s all good, really. As long as I have my friends who were in the same level of fandom as I was several years ago (we rule, you know… we STILL rule even up to now ^_~), I’m all good.

          Yeah, I checked out your new Arahsi page. I don’t regret losing amnosNET, but I think it was time for other fans to “continue the legacy” and promote Arashi the same way as I did w/ amnosNET. If I can still able to get the domain back, I may reopen (probably using wordpress on this one— I found a tutorial on how to create an easy static-page website using WordPress… been getting lazy with web design as of late LOL). We can still reach out to new fans one way or another… just gotta find a way to work around with the “competition” and we’ll be fine. ^_^

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  8. anne
    08/06/2009 @ 11:33 pm

    You have raised some interesting points… :smile: If you don’t mind, can I list down a couple of my fandom peeves?

    1.) Demanding fans–> People have lives outside the fandom. I find comments like, “MU links please coz MF hates me!” or “Subs please.” or “When will the next episode come out?” very annoying. They are not getting paid for this so the least takers could do is be thankful with what’s provided for them. And no, the word ‘please’ is not magical all the time…

    2.) Unsolicited re-distributors (sellers) of raw or subbed media–> All I can say is, STOP IT!!!

    3.) Extremely biased fans–> Everyone has their favorite. Naturally, you want others to recognize that he’s full of awesome. I just don’t see the point why you have to insult the member whom you less/least like, even in totally unrelated posts/entires. I am not talking about affectionate bashing here. Saying that you don’t care if X plummeted to his death or if the group would be better without X is not funny. Adding emoticons, abbreviations, or apologies after does not help.
    Or insulting a member and something that he worked hard for because he ranked higher than your favorite in an online poll? What the…
    Or hating a member because his fans are annoying?
    Or always trying to find something wrong with what your least liked member says or does?
    Or whining that you’d rather have Y involved in a project rather than X? What gives? Every individual job contributes to the group’s welfare. You can wish for someone to have a solo job, but to end up insulting another person is insensitivity on my part.

    :oops: Sorry for the ramble.

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    • Adrimarie
      08/07/2009 @ 1:52 am

      Hiya! Thanks for stopping by! I’ve gotten some good responses in this article that rather than updating this article that I’m going to make a “part 2” of this. ^_^

      Keep them coming. We need to build some fan girl guidelines or something for the “noobs”. (I don’t mean as an insult, of course. ^^)

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      • anne
        08/07/2009 @ 6:17 am

        none taken!!! we were all noobs/newbs once, but being one now is very different. as a noob, i stalked every blog and website about arashi. i never considered wading through 6746217364761 pages of youtube clips tedious. also upon finding another fan, i go, “OMG!!! SHE LIKES THEM TOO!!!” it takes me a while to find the courage to post a comment, though… :cry: meeting fellow arashi fans back then was very special and wondrous.

        i’m looking forward to part two. ^_^ At mabuhay ang pan de sal!!!

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  9. kartenshi_09
    08/30/2009 @ 4:17 am

    WOW! this is long and interesting.^^ even though i’m a fan only 2years ago… i can understand what you meant and i hope i’m not viewed as a rabid fan girl coz i’m not, gladly… hhehhee it made me think..”does those fangirls really exist? amazing!”…

    i normally search for updates and i think i belong to the rookie to normal fangirl stage….

    and i do not go to the point of stealing other’s works.. that also pisses me off!… i appreciate their efforts and i don’t know why there are still those who’d do that…

    i’ve read the add ons too and i don’t know if i have more to say….

    uhm…. just got confused on the…. “leah dizon? pinay pride…” are you pinay? just asking… hope you don’t mind…

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    • Adrimarie
      08/30/2009 @ 7:45 pm

      Thanks for stopping by and share your words. :)

      Well, this isn’t targeting anyone in particular, but it’s both a general entry/listing of what a typical (male J-)idol fan girl is like. It’s not just based on observation of others, but many of them are derived from all the “fangirling” habits that I used to go through several years ago. It’s kind of like a “reflection” of who I was as a fan and it can also be a “reflection” for other fans too. Sadly though, not everyone took this entry lightly as I’ve had *some* “hate” comments from other fangirls as of late how I need to”get a life” than to “hate” on fangirls in general… I don’t get it… if not having a job and spending time with family and friends most of my time while participating in the church choir and other volunteer work in the community isn’t considered “having a life,” then I don’t know what it is. :?

      But I can assure you… many of the stuff I wrote in the “list” may be outrageous and simply unbelievable (heck, even I can’t believe it myself), but sadly, they do exist. :sad:

      Stealing others’ works, meaning the fanworks? (ie. fanart, graphics, fanfics, etc.?) Fanart and fanfics, that I can understand. Graphics is somewhat of a different matter. JE actually had their idols’ photographs (from magazines and CDs and other print media paraphernelia) become prohibited from being used in fanworks or even be posted on the web. Even their own official sites don’t even have images of them. They get nitpicky with the “copyright” issues with those images, which is ridiculous if you ask me. They treat their idols as their “assets and properties”, so they’re more like their “products” rather than their “clients.” Know where I’m getting at?

      uhm…. just got confused on the…. “leah dizon? pinay pride…” are you pinay? just asking… hope you don’t mind…

      If you took a visit to the ADRIATASTIC? section at the nav menu above, you’ll find your answer there. :P

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  10. vie
    09/29/2009 @ 10:28 am

    I really like your article!!
    I agree about some newbies act like they know everything about their idols. Some of them are trying to exist in fandom even by stealing and reposting translations claimed to be their own works. The others just hate older fans who know more than them. But there is also a tendency of elitism where some “senior” fans ignored and berate newer fans. I’ve just been in Johnny’s fandom for 3 years, but I already found these uncomfortable things in fandom, so I can quite imagine what you felt, since you were already in the fandom long before me. A friend of mine who is an Arashi fan from 1999 just decided to resign from fandom and enjoy Arashi by herself.

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    • Adrimarie
      09/29/2009 @ 12:43 pm

      Hi there, thanks for stopping by!

      Some of them are trying to exist in fandom even by stealing and reposting translations claimed to be their own works. The others just hate older fans who know more than them.

      You know, I’ve had a few “haters” (actually I have about…. 1? LOL XD) who thought I was conceited to write something like this on my own blog. But sadly, stealing other peoples’ original content and translations without credit is very common in any fandom if you think about it. There were a lot of “good” fans and informative ones in the past (before I went on a hiatus), but now most of them have given up or moved on or simply just enjoying their fandom their own way. I don’t blame them. I’m very close to that route myself.

      But there is also a tendency of elitism where some “senior” fans ignored and berate newer fans.

      Well, I’m a returning fan, and in a way, for those “senior” fans (those who only learned about Arashi for like… I dunno… after 2006 with the whole “Jun-Bait”/HYD period?) they seem to consider “returning fans” (the “outdated” ones, in other words) as “newbie” fans too. I joined an Arashi forum that was only about 2-yrs-old and a lot of the people in there treated me like a total noob in there and when I complained, they say that I’m the only one who felt that way. Whatever. I quit going over there and pretty much steering away from forums right now.

      I’m currently rebuilding my old ARASHI fansite (AMNOSnet) right now. Still need to add more content in there but I’d like to present ARASHI to the masses my own way. No gimmicks, no fluff, no excessive fangirling (seriously, who on earth would care about the site owner’s fangirlism in a supposed “informative” fansite?), just keeping it real, you know?

      A friend of mine who is an Arashi fan from 1999 just decided to resign from fandom and enjoy Arashi by herself.

      I don’t blame your friend. I would probably have done the same too, but I decided to take the “returning” route in hopes of having these obnoxious, self-conceited “newer” obsessive fans SCHOOLED. :P

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      • vie
        10/01/2009 @ 9:34 pm

        Yeah, it’s a pain being treated as newbies when we decided to return to fandom..I experienced that in J-rock fandom :(
        I know Arashi’s existence since they appear in one of the episode of old Domoto Kyoudai where Gackt became the pianist (2003-ish?), but I didn’t care about them until I watched Yamada Taro (Nino’s bait, not HYD/Jun’s bait like many other fans were baited XDD) so I’m still a newbie in Arashi fandom^^

        I really support your effort to build no-excessive fangirling fansite! I’ve just visited AMNOS.net, and I think I’m gonna rely on your website to get infos :D
        I joined a local forum before, but I felt alienated because I didn’t understand their way of fangirling, like making (Arashi member)’s Wife Association or similar things O_o.

        If you have time, I want to know your opinion about how hard to get subbed downloads nowadays, since many communities require some conditions to enable fans to get the downloads.

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        • Adrimarie
          10/04/2009 @ 12:39 pm

          Hi again vie! Sorry for the late response.

          In terms of subbed downloads, it’s actually one of the topics that I plan to write about in here. I’ve been working on AMNOS.net a lot as of late that I haven’t even have the time to write frequently here anymore, but I haven’t forgotten. ^_^

          LOL… “ARASHI (membername) ‘Wife’ Association”, huh? Why do I get the feeling that we must have joined the same forum? I joined a few forums awhile that has that all around. Back in the early fandom days (2002-2006) there wasn’t such thing as those. Even until now I’m still quite appalled at all these “trends” going on within the Arashi fandom today… all the flailing and the obsessing and the spazzing…

          Will keep in touch. :smile:

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          • vie
            10/06/2009 @ 1:41 am

            I’ll wait for your article regarding subbed materials :smile: and ganbatte for AMNOS.net! :D

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